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I had my share of intense arguments with Ghost back in the earliest days of the Dawg Vent when his handle was "Ghost of Georgia's Greatness." At the time, he was a very negative poster, but his posts, while angry, were not filled with the typos to the extent that they were later. Later on in his Dawg Vent "career", Ghost decided that he was no longer going to be a negative poster, and to his credit, he achieved that turnaround - but it was pretty easy to figure out that something was wrong with him because some of the posts were almost entirely incoherent. It was drugs. This does not equate to me calling Ghost a bad person. Many good people have had their lives ruined by drugs.

Ghost never called me, but I do know people that he called, and it is my understanding that he wanted to be seen as a leader of the Vent - someone who was one of the most passionate and knowledgeable of posters. While he did achieve the former, I understand that it genuinely pained and embarrassed him when he put up something like the "Cawgs or Gie" post. He decided to be good-natured about it, but that doesn't mean he liked it.

Many of you are insisting that "Cawgs or Gie" go on t-shirts or banners, etc. In doing so, you are trying to make his memory a catchphrase based on one of his low points. Whether he laughed it off or not, it was still a low point. I doubt that is how anyone would want to be remembered.

What I'm driving at is this: when you insist that you remember Graeme Turnbull with "Cawgs or Gie" because it made him a "Vent legend" or because that's how you want to remember him, you are not carrying out a tribute to Graeme Turnbull. You are carrying out a tribute to yourself.

Posted on 2/13 3:45 PM | IP: Logged


 About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - JudgeLarryDawg 2/12 8:47 PM (show all)  Views 5207
        So is this a tribute to Graeme or to "Ghost"? I am confused... - Samsara 2/16 6:32 PM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - Tjiz 2/13 7:40 PM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - Tjiz 2/13 6:48 PM
        Are you going to remember him, or a caricature? - Rabid Dawg 2/13 3:45 PM
               This whole discussion is getting too deep for me - JudgeLarryDawg 2/13 4:02 PM
                      Re: This whole discussion is getting too deep for me - Rabid Dawg 2/13 4:17 PM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - Tjiz 2/13 2:24 PM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - Tjiz 2/13 1:41 PM
        I can't bite my tongue on this any longer... - HacksawDawg 2/13 8:50 AM
               Seems like some are trying to make this about themselves and not Ghost.... - Shudawg7 2/13 4:54 PM
               Of course you couldn't...and the Great Oracle has now spoken... - doggone48 2/13 12:11 PM
                      Your comparing Van Gogh to Ghost.... - TCDevilDawg 2/13 5:05 PM
                             Not really...and it's "you're" not "your"...but your reply was funny... - doggone48 2/13 8:24 PM
               Always the voice of reason - Dave the Dawg 2/13 9:57 AM
               Re: I can't bite my tongue on this any longer... - RedBlackDawg 2/13 9:51 AM
               Re: I can't bite my tongue on this any longer... - JudgeLarryDawg 2/13 9:46 AM
                      You missed his point completely... - jt10mc 2/13 5:08 PM
                             I think the point was to rant............... - kckd 2/16 2:27 PM
               Hack, while your post is very accurate, in a tragedy the essence of - Lurker Above 2/13 9:42 AM
               This hits the nail on the head* - pbddawg 2/13 8:54 AM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - tdawg4 2/13 2:10 AM
        You people are worse than the U.S. Congress.... - doggone48 2/13 12:50 AM
               "It's respectful"? It is the exact opposite of respectful. - AthensDawg_10 2/13 10:30 AM
               You nailed it. Nice post. nm - Lurker Above 2/13 8:51 AM
               ^^^this^^^ **** - ZoDawg 2/13 8:27 AM
               Well said 48** - DoubleDDawg 2/13 7:57 AM
        Please go with "Dawgs Or Die" . . . - Catfish_UGA 2/13 12:32 AM
        People are missing the point about that.... - JvilleDawg 2/12 11:51 PM
               That may be true, but in the case of cawgs or gie that's false... - AthensDawg_10 2/13 12:10 AM
                      The reason Cawgs or Gie was funny was because it captured - Lurker Above 2/13 9:49 AM
                      So if you are true, and not...... - JvilleDawg 2/13 1:44 AM
        Tough call in this case - CrowleyDawg 2/12 10:50 PM
        IMO, if he wanted to be remembered for "Cawgs or Gie...." - Shudawg7 2/12 10:11 PM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - K94LIFE 2/12 9:49 PM
               Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - fprex 2/13 8:17 AM
               Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - walterwinston 2/12 10:01 PM
        Agree, "Cawgs or Gie" has nothing to do with . . . . - oak mountain dawg 2/12 8:56 PM
               it was a "typo" brought about by taking a powerful, presciription drug... - AthensDawg_10 2/12 10:40 PM
               Very good point* - gadawgs1433 2/12 9:17 PM
                      No, it's not a good point and it's not . . . - Catfish_UGA 2/13 12:44 AM
        Re: About "Dawgs or Die" instead of "Cawgs or Gie" - Tjiz 2/12 8:55 PM
               Can we just move on...* - gadawg_14 2/12 8:58 PM
                      Amen* - FatHalpertUGA 2/13 8:03 AM
                      amen and amen. - theoriginalrichtfan 2/13 7:57 AM
                      If you dont like it, dont read it. Dont comment on it. Just move on, as you - MiddleTennDawg 2/12 11:06 PM
                      Cawgs or Gie, bro ... - BayouDawg 2/12 9:32 PM
                      You need to move on and let others vent as they wish. Speaking - Jsondawg 2/12 9:16 PM
                             Then there should be a Ghost Forum only. - gadawg_14 2/12 10:01 PM
                                    Agreed* - FatHalpertUGA 2/13 8:02 AM
                                    Hey Gadawg_14 - Go join Rolo and Hiawassee on the free boards - LrgK9 2/12 11:15 PM
                                    Don't read'em ** - JudgeLarryDawg 2/12 10:14 PM
                                           I don't* - gadawg_14 2/12 10:24 PM

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